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Katyia1 November 2012 11:51PM

Clegg warned that such tactics could set Britain on a path to EU withdrawal? "What you will never achieve is by stomping your foot and saying: 'Well, we want to be part of this club, but we kind of unilaterally want to rewrite the rules of the game and we want to pick and choose unilaterally what we're going to sign up to'

isn't that the idea of the treaty that you can participate in parts and not others - - -

The deputy prime minister believes Ed Milliband and Balls are using Europe in a cynical way to launch a tactical raid on the government after Labour joined forces with Tory Eurosceptics to defeat the government on the EU budget on Wednesday

okayyy - - - so they want credit for the good stuff no doubt - - -

Clegg and Cameron are united in calling for the budget to be frozen in line with inflation. Lib Dem sources were relaxed about what some saw as the curious position of the prime minister and deputy prime minister uniting around one position ? and then trading blow on another, the repatriation of powers. "We are in the centre" one source said

hmmm interesting - - - freezing budgets seems to be all the rage in the present - - - the powers thing is really missing the point - - - you can't be just in Europe or out of it depends what area of the economy you are talking about - - - we are almost looking at their emotional combers here - - -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/01/david-cameron-nick-clegg-eu

Katyia1 November 2012 11:56PM

The budget issue will return to the fore next week when Cameron meets Merkel who on Thursday criticised Britain's threat to veto the budget if Cameron's fellow 26 EU leaders decline to accept the British proposal for a freeze at a summit later this month

you know I don't like David Cameron very much but he is looking quite sensible in this article - - -

Cameron said: "If we don't get what I consider to be a good deal for Britain I have no hesitation in vetoing the framework. But the German chancellor said after a meeting with the Irish prime minister, Enda Kenny: "I don't want to throw more vetoes into the room, it doesn't help bring about a solution."

well not the one Kenny wants anyway - - -

Downing Street believes that EU leaders are unlikely to reach agreement on the budget at a summit on 22 and 23 November. They believe negotiations will have to be postponed until next year because other countries such as Denmark are also threatening to veto the budget

riiight - - -

Clegg agrees with Cameron that Britain should opt out of some measures. But under the Lisbon treaty Britain has to opt out of all the measures and then negotiate with its EU partners which measures to opt back into it. Clegg made clear that he will not agree to the opt out until he and Cameron have agreed on which measures to opt back into

hmmm - - - I don't know I mean where we obviously have to have trading agreements with Europe do we really need them telling us how to run our legal system isn't that something individual and particular to a county or even to a city that might be incredibly different from another town - - - disciplinary measures that should be tailored to the unique offenders that you have to come in close contact with - - -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/01/david-cameron-nick-clegg-eu
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Katyia2 November 2012 12:02AM

so are Osborn and Boris his babies then?